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Live Debate on May 10th! Help us spread the word!! Should Christians Keep the Sabbath? On May 10th, at 5:30pm (CST), two Christian pastors will share the stage to debate a profound biblical question: "Should Christians keep the Sabbath?" Each man will present his case and then have an opportunity for rebuttal. This event will be in front of a live audience at Passion for Truth Fellowship. We will also be **Live Streaming** the debate at www.passionfortruth.com Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of WorldNetDaily, will be moderating the debate! For more information, please visit www.passionfortruth.com

Live Debate on May 10th! Help us spread the word!!

Should Christians Keep the Sabbath?

On May 10th, at 5:30pm (CST), two Christian pastors will share the stage to debate a profound biblical question: “Should Christians keep the Sabbath?” Each man will present his case and then have an opportunity for rebuttal. This event will be in front of a live audience at Passion for Truth Fellowship.

We will also be **Live Streaming** the debate at www.passionfortruth.com

Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of WorldNetDaily, will be moderating the debate!

For more information, please visit www.passionfortruth.com

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  • Vaidas Krasauskas Tikiuosi, kad jie irasys irasa! Nezinau to asmens, kuris debatuos Steili. Bet turbut jo pozicija yra kaip ir daugumos krikscioniu – krikscionys gali laikytis sabato, jeigu pageidauda.
  • Daina Kiss ….taigi, Vaidai, pagal jusų teologiją, išeina, kad krikščionys gali nežudyti savo artimo, jeigu pageidauja. Taip pat Krikščionys gali nepaleistuvauti, na, jei pageidauja…o jei pageidauja- gali sau leisti… Krikščionys gali nevogti, jeigu pageidauja, bet jeigu pageidauja, gali vogti, dergti savo tėvus, garbinti visas pasaulio bjaurystes… Pageidavimų koncertas…linkintiems NE pasveikti… 
  • Laima Briediene Tuoj prasides diskusija
    Tie ,kas negali dalyvauti ,gales ziureti irasa ,bus irasoma .
  • Vaidas Krasauskas Laima Briediene, noreciau isgirsti jusu mintis apie debatus.
  • Laima Briediene Vaidai ,tas vyrukas kalbejo labai panasiai ,kaip ir Jus kalbate .
    Deja ,jo argumentai nebuvo stiprus ,jis bande irodyti savo pozicija ,naudodamas antisemitiniu “baznycios tevu” komentarus ir Pauliaus laisku neaiskias vietas .

    Cia keletas komentaru apie sia diskusija :

    Cindy Kraft Christians aren’t under the “Mosaic covenant”? Sabbath was established at creation. So, I guess it’s okay to murder (abortion), steal, covet, use the Lord’s Name in vain, and the rest of the 10 Commandments.
    Like · Reply · 4 · 14 hours ago

    Cindy Kraft Good thing this guy has commentaries to support his position because he sure can’t rely on Scriptural support.
    Unlike · Reply · 8 · 14 hours ago

    Gemika Pearl Maloney Chris Rosebrough said we should interpret hard scriptures with clear. He uses Paul’s teachings to say they are clear, yet Peter teaches the opposite: 2 Peter 3:16 – Paul is hard to be understood by the uneducated. Hence, the lawless twist his letters to their destruction. (Clear scripture interprets the difficult passages!)
    Unlike · Reply · 6 · 14 hours ago

    Gemika Pearl Maloney feast days are a shadow of things TO COME (future tense)
    Unlike · 6 · 14 hours ago

    Laima Briediene They ARE a shadow,not WERE …

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  • Laima Briediene Cia yra daugiau idomiu komentaru:
    https://www.facebook.com/passionfortruth/posts/10152426913634204

    You can choose to follow the “church fathers” if you like…but as for me and my house, we will follow the Father of the Church. – Jim Staley
  • Laima Briediene Buvo labai idomu ,kaip pastorius Chris Rosebrough atkakliai neige Dievo Isakymus ,sakydamas ,kad jie buvo duoti Izraeliui ,o ne pagonims ,bet po to pats savo lupomis pasake ,kad jis priklauso Izraeliui ,yra iskiepytas i Alyvmedi   
  • Laima Briediene Paul Belew
    Around half of the debate on Chris’s side to me was based off writing’s from an already corrupted and mislead church and when Jesus says that it is finished to me that is the first marriage so that we are now released and free to be remarried and allowed to once again walk in his righteousness which is Law ( The best that we can)Grace is what released us from the first marriage that we may be remarried and be saved living in righteousness !

    Darryl Schackai
    Making a case using church fathers as the scriptural foundation over and above the author of those very Scriptures, is a losing argument.

  • Laima Briediene Laura Matear If anyone was questioning within himself whether or not to keep the 7th day Sabbath, I believe their question would have been completely answered. Pastor Staley used a massive amount of scripture to back his belief whilst the other pastor used one or two verses and a whole lot of commentary and even more “church fathers”. Staley’s last words summed it up very nicely: “If you want to serve the church fathers, go ahead; but as for me and my house, we will serve YHWH” I pray that many seeking souls were brought into truth by this discussion. 

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  • Labas Rytas Jezus mus pasauke sekti paskui ji. Tie kas laikosi sabo negali sekti paskui Kristu, nes Kristus sabo nesilaike.
    7 hrs · Like
  • Laima Briediene Labas Rytas ,prasom atsibusti ir uzuosti kava (wake up and smell coffee )
    Is kur tokios naujienos ,kad Jeshua nesilaike Sabato ? Jei Jis pazeide nors viena Dievo Isakyma ,tai Jis negalejo atpirkti musu ,juk Jis yra Avinelis be demes ,be kliaudos
    O jeigu Jis pats moke lauzyti Dievo Isakymus ,tai isvis tuomet jis netikras pranasas ! Tokiu nesekite …
    4 hrs · Like · 1
  • Labas Rytas Tos “naujienos” jau beveik dvieju tukstanciu metu senumo…siulau ne fantazuoti apie tai, kaip Jezus negalejo atpirkti zmoniu del sabo lauzymo, o skaityti Biblija, siuo atveju evangelija pagal Jona.
    4 hrs · Like
  • Laima Briediene Siulau ir Jums skaityti ,VISA Biblija ir truputi atidziau
    O ” melo tevo ” naujienos tai jau ne dvieju tukstanciu metu senumo,bet sesiu tukstanciu metu senumo ,nuo pat pradzios …
    3 hrs · Like
  • Laima Briediene Yeshuos zodziai is Jono liudijimo :

    Joh 8:46 Kas iš jūsų apkaltins mane nuodėme? Jeigu tad tiesą sakau, kodėl netikite manimi?
    Joh 8:47 Kas iš Dievo yra, tas Dievo žodžių klauso. Jūs neklausote todėl, kad nesate iš Dievo”.

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  • Labas Rytas Nejau neskaitete, jog zmogaus sunus yra ir sabo Viespats? O, tai reiskia, jog Jezus Kristus yra auksciau sabo.
  • Laima Briediene Ar tai reiskia ,kad Jezus Kristus panaikino Sabata ? Kad Jis ,isikunijes Dievo Zodis, priestaravo Dievo uzrasytam Zodziui ? 
  • Labas Rytas Tai reiskia, jog Jezus Kristus yra auksciau istatymu. Jis panaikina viena ir itvirtina kita. Nejaugi neskaitete, jog parasyta: “Jis panaikino įsakymų Įstatymą su jo potvarkiais”.(Ef 2,15). Juk jei Dievas turi galia isteigti vadinasi turi galia ir panaikinti. Argi ne kvaila butu manyti, jog Dievas isleides kazkoki potvarki yra toks apgailetinai silpnas, jog nebeturi jokios galios panaikinti ar pakeisti savo isleistu potvarkiu.
  • Laima Briediene Manyciau ,jog butent kvaila manyti ,kad Dievas panaikino savo potvarkius ,savo instrukcijas -Tora . Yeshua aiskiai pasake ,kad nei vienas taskelis ir bruksnelis nepraeis ,kol Dangus ir zeme nepraeis ,kol VISKAS bus ivykdyta !
    Sioje istraukoje Efezieciams yra kalbama ne apie Dievo duota Tora .
    Iskreipti vertimai ir konteksto nezinojimas veda prie tokiu keistu isvadu ,kaip kad jus darote .
  • Labas Rytas keistos isvados buna, kai manoma, jog Dievas neigalus pakeisti savo isleistu potvarkiu, taisykliu, isakymu. Net zmones turi galia keisti ir naikinti savo isleistus istatymus, taisykles ir potvarkius. O Dievas pagal jusu fantazijas yra kazkokios zemesnes uz zmones kategorijos, neturintis jokios teises naikinti ar keisti savo isleistu potvarkiu. Juk Senaja Sandora panaikino…bet jus tikriausiai to ne nezinote jog gyvename Naujosios Sandoros laikais. Jis panaikino viena ir nustate kita. Deja labai daugelis zmoniu megsta gyventi praeitimi….
  • Labas Rytas O kas jums pasake, jog ta rasto vieta (EF 2,15) yra ne apie toros panaikkinima? Marija apsireiske is Dangaus ar koks archangelas Gabrielius?
  • Laima Briediene Labas ,Dievas pazadejo Naujoje Sandoroje irasyti TORA i musu sirdis .
    Juk problema buvo ne su jo Tora ,nes ji yra tobula,bet su musu sirdimis .
  • Laima Briediene Jer 31:31 Ateina dienos, kai Aš padarysiu su Izraeliu ir Judu naują sandorą, – sako Viešpats, –
    Jer 31:32 ne tokią sandorą, kokią padariau su jų tėvais, kai juos, paėmęs už rankos, išvedžiau iš Egipto žemės. Jie sulaužė mano sandorą, nors Aš buvau jų valdovas.
    Jer 31:33 Bet tokią sandorą Aš padarysiu su Izraelio namais: toms dienoms praėjus, Aš įdėsiu savo įstatymą į jų vidų ir įrašysiu į jų širdis. Aš būsiu jų Dievas, o jie bus mano tauta. 

    Jer 31:33 ButH3588 thisH2063 shall be the covenantH1285 thatH834 I will makeH3772 withH854 the houseH1004 of Israel;H3478 AfterH310 thoseH1992 days,H3117 saithH5002 the LORD,H3068 I will putH5414 (H853) my lawH8451 in their inward parts,H7130 and writeH3789 it inH5921 their hearts;H3820 and will beH1961 their God,H430 and theyH1992 shall beH1961 my people.H5971

    H8451
    תּרה תּורה
    tôrâh tôrâh
    to-raw’, to-raw’
    From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: – law.

    Ta pati istrauka cituojama laiske Hebrajams :

    Heb 10:16 “Štai Sandora, kurią su jais sudarysiu, praslinkus anoms dienoms, – sako Viešpats: – Aš įdėsiu savo įstatymus (Tora) į jų širdis ir juos įrašysiu jų mintyse,

  • Labas Rytas Tobula tora yra tik jusu fantazijose. Tora leidzia skirtis, o Jezus aiskiai pasake, kas skiriasi ir naujai tuokiasi, ta(s) svetimauja. Tora buvo duota atsizvelgiant i zmoniu silpnuma, todel nera tobula.
  • Laima Briediene Klausiate :”O kas jums pasake, jog ta rasto vieta (EF 2,15) yra ne apie toros panaikkinima? ”
    Viso Rasto kontekstas aiskiai parodo ,kad tai negalejo buti kalbama apie Dievo Tora .
  • Laima Briediene Tarp tikinciuju Dievas niekuomet neleido skyrybu ! Yeshua tikrai nemoke priesingai ,negu Tora ,Jo paties Zodis,moko.
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  • Laima Briediene Kitas dalykas ,kai yra nuodemes ,kai vienas is sutuoktiniu yra netikintis ar atkrinta nuo tikejimo (pastoviai nuodemiauja) . Tuomet yra galimos skyrybos (del sirdies kietumo ) . Tik Paulius nuo saves pridejo ,sakydamas ,kad jis isako (bet ne Viespats) ,kad tikintysis nesiskirtu tokiu atveju .
  • Laima Briediene Question: Does Ephesians 2:15-16 show that Yeshua abolished the Law of Commandments?

    Eph 2:15-16: 15 by destroying in his own body the enmity occasioned by the Torah, with its commands set forth in the form of ordinances. He did this in order to create in union with himself from the two groups a single new humanity and thus make shalom, 16 and in order to reconcile to God both in a single body by being executed on a stake as a criminal and thus killing in himself that enmity.

    Answer: No. When Yeshua was here in physical form, he made useless the antagonism between the two groups caused by the opinions of men concerning the Law of Commandments, and through him “one new man” was made from the two. Yeshua came to put away that enmity and bring into existence “one new man” that agreed through Him on the Commandments of YHVH.

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    Laima Briediene
    Laima Briediene Beje ,zodis “porneia (fornication) ” gali reiksti ne tik fizine nuodeme ,bet ir dvasine,ty meile kitiems dievams .
    Taigi “porneia (fornication) ” atveju ,jei sutuoktinis neatgailauja ,galimos skyrybos . O tikintysis tuo neuzsiims arba atgailaus ,jei taip atsitiko .
    Laima Briediene
    Laima Briediene Pastor Jim Staley shares his thoughts on his recent debate with Pastor Chris Rosebrough
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N0UwHYwBFE

    Pastor Jim Staley shares his thoughts on his recent debate with Pastor Chris…
    YOUTUBE.COM
    Laima Briediene
    Laima Briediene Check out this great article from WND regarding Pastor Jim’s recent debate with Pastor Chris Rosebrough.

    http://www.wnd.com/…/christians-go-head-to-head-over…/

    A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997
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